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  • in reply to: Image Post Test #13392
    Mike
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    Nice images. šŸ™‚

    in reply to: Snub holsters and concealment #13199
    Mike
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    There are some newer designs available nowadays, including at least one that offers a significantly greater cant, making it specifically easier for a seated draw, but this one is a classic.

    in reply to: Snub holsters and concealment #13157
    Mike
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    Well, this sub forum category doesn’t seem to have seen much use, so maybe it could use a little fresh air.

    A little while ago I came across a company that collects and sells discontinued leather holsters. I’d seen it mentioned in another gun forum. It caught my attention because a cross draw holster for a snub revolver was listed. What really caught my attention was that it had been made by a leather maker with whom I was once familiar as a young cop. The Earl Ginn Company, in Belmont CA. Earl had previously been a saddle and harness maker, but finally turned his talent to making leather gear for cops. Much of my first issued leather gear had been made by him.

    Anyway, the thing that particularly caught my attention was a crossdraw holster, claimed to be new/old stock. This is a once popular pattern made popular by BUCHEIMER as the SENTINAL. Designed to fit both J’s (up to 2″) and Colt DS snubs. Some email exchanges with the company confirmed that the examples were indeed new, old stock/unused Earl Ginn holsters. I ordered one.

    When it arrived it did, indeed, look like the holster pocket had never seen a gun, nor the belt slot a belt. It was tight.

    This is the company’s ebay seller presence, although the owner also has a new standalone, online website for those folks who don’t use ebay.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Earl-Ginn-Black-Basketweave-Small-Revolver-Holster-Chief-Detective-2-J/184334250217?hash=item2aeb2d70e9:g:QkUAAOSwB~Bfdc2O

    The holster I received:
    ginn_4
    ginn
    ginn_2
    ginn-1

    The amount of cant allowed by the belt slot:
    ginn_5
    ginn_6

    Now, crossdraw isn’t for everyone, nor every situation, but it does have some advantages in some situations … and this leftover old school holster made by a long closed company I knew in my youth struck a chord in me. šŸ™‚

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    in reply to: How do you grip your snubby? #12963
    Mike
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    I’m R-handed. When shooting with my dominant hand I keep my support (Left) hand thumb off & slightly forward to the L/side, away from the rear of the cylinder or the thumb piece. I don’t cross my support hand thumb over the web of my dominant hand. My dominant hand thumb is curled down to make a fist. This allows me to use the same grip technique for both revolvers and pistols.

    In older times, when the “thumb crossed over onto the web of the shooting hand” grip was used by some revolver shooters, some shooters would reported that too much (and repetitive) pressure being exerted onto the pressure point in the fleshy web of the hand could weaken their grip, especially when the thumb tip reflexively pressed into the web of their hand during recoil.

    I’ve seen some pistol shooters using the “crossed thumbs” grip suddenly need band-aids after their slide creased and lacerated their support hand thumb. Some crossed their thumb so far back and low, closer to their wrist, that they avoided the cycling slide cutting their thumb, but it usually “opened” their support hand and gave them an awkward 2-handed grip that didn’t help their shooting.

    I prefer to use the same dominant hand (master) grip for shooting DA and SA revolvers and pistols. Makes transitioning among them simple.

    Basically, the “job” of my support hand thumb is to avoid interfering with my dominant hand’s grip, or coming into contact with the slide or cylinder or any of the controls. When shooting SA revolvers, that flexible thumb position allows for easy thumb-cocking of the hammer during the revolver “rolling” with my grip.

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    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #12805
    Mike
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    Using my pic hosting service (postimage) I couldn’t post pics in the same way that worked on the other forums and get them to display. I had some options, though, and finally found that if I used a “hotlink” for website, instead of a hotlink for forums (option in my hosting service) the pics displayed normally. You might explore how your pic hosting service offers options.

    Everybody likes pics of snubs and hats. šŸ™‚

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    in reply to: NEW MEMEBER #10731
    Mike
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    Welcome aboard. Another non-FB user. šŸ˜‰

    Also a retired cop. Just shy of 27 years active, and then 8 subsequent years as a reserve. I served as a firearms instructor for 26 years, overlapping active and reserve periods, during which time I attended assorted armorer classes & recerts for a number of gun companies and guns. (Coincidentally, 26 classes, last I totaled the certificates stashed in a folder.)

    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #4830
    Mike
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    I actually bought that 37-2DAO more than 10 years ago, when S&W released the canceled order’s guns through their usual vendors. I originally shot it using some standard pressure 110gr JHPs made by Winchester (STHP) and Federal (Hydra-Shok), but also sometimes use standard pressure 130gr ball for range sessions, and picked up some standard pressure 125gr Hornady American Gunner JHP’s (to try). The W-W STHP has a bit of a bright muzzle flash, and the Fed Hydra-Shok is a bit tamer, and both are pretty decently accurate.

    I stress I only shoot standard pressure in it because it’s built on the older Airweight frame, before they made the design and metallurgical improvements to make the Airweights to be rated for +P.

    Funny story. Some of the units produced apparently used M37 barrels, and some used 442-1 barrels, which had the .38 S&W Special +P language. I’d read a lot of internet chatter and wondered about it, so I called the factory and asked to discuss the special run with someone, as an interested LE revolver armorer who owned one. I spoke with a couple of people who had contrary opinions about whether +P was suitable for this older Airweight frame, but neither knew why carbon steel barrels from 2 types of Airweights had been used, or what that might mean. I was told by one of them that if I didn’t mind being put on Hold, they’d call over to Revolver Production and ask about the guns from that special run.

    Maybe 5 minutes later they came back on the line and told me that they’d spoken to the head of revolver Production, and that the 37-2DAO was not built on the newer Airweight frame rated for +P. Just for grins, I asked them what they’d do if any of the owners of the guns made with the 442-1 barrels (and its +P rated language) used enough +P to damage the gun. They, without hesitation, said they’d honor their warranty and replace the gun with a new model Airweight of one sort or another. I thought they almost sounded a bit sheepish that the older framed snubs being shipped with +P language barrels, but the frames weren’t considered rated for +P. Well, to be fair, they were produced for an Asian police dept that would probably never shoot +P ammo, but probably only 158gr LRN, so using some 442-1 barrels to quickly assemble the order might be understandable. Just speculation.

    Anyway, I want to keep that 37DAO in great shape, so i only shoot standard pressure loads.

    I picked up some of the standard pressure Hornady 110gr Critical Defense, using their red-tipped FTX JHP. I tried it and was very pleasantly surprised that it had a lower felt recoil impulse and was very, very accurate. Like, tack-driver accurate … out of that 37DAO, in my hands. I’ve subsequently tried the same standard pressure 110gr CD in one of my M&P 340’s and one of my 642-1’s, and it’s exhibited the same reduced recoil and tack-driver accuracy. If some of the gel tests are accurate, Hornady may well have a winner on their hands for a low recoil, low pressure FTX JHP that’s accurate, and seems to expand and penetrate in testing. I bought several boxes of it, at any rate. I’ll keep the remaining boxes of the W-W STHP and Fed Hydra-Shok as backup options for carry loads for that pristine 37DAO.

    in reply to: Forgotten Snub Widget #3118
    Mike
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    Whenever I hear the term “combat handguns”, I think of Col Charles Askins and Major George Nonte.

    For the younger folks amongst us …

    https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/col-charles-askins/

    Charles Askins – Gunfighter Legend


    https://www.amazon.com/George-C-Nonte/e/B001HPM6RC/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1

    Nowadays when I think of “tactical” in the civilian shooting realm, I think “velcro” and disposable plastic. šŸ˜‰

    The TAC appellation of the plastic widget holster was probably intended to attract attention to the folks who recognized the growing use of “tactical” gear in police work.

    in reply to: Forgotten Snub Widget #3111
    Mike
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    They’re pretty well covered from direct contact due to the width and design of the heavy plastic underneath the muzzle. Besides, I’d think the rest of the rounds in the cylinder would probably be exposed to more “direct muzzle blast” with the hot gasses blowing across the cylinder face (and into the charge hole throats) in a revolver.

    That said, I’d not think it’s something someone would want to use for a lot of range use, anyway. The grip feels like shooting with a regular set of factory smooth stocks, so it’s not like it would require more than an initial familiarization for an experienced snub revolver shooter. Maybe try it while firing a cylinder load or 2 of rounds, to get the feel and realize how it affects loading, and then just use it as a carry method in some circumstances? I checked mine on a scale yesterday and it weighed 3.8oz, BTW.

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    in reply to: Forgotten Snub Widget #3102
    Mike
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    A couple quick and tough pics (w/o adjustments to refine quality) of the old TAC holster using my older 649.

    TAC-left
    Tac-right
    TAC-left-open

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    in reply to: Forgotten Snub Widget #3092
    Mike
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    So, one of the guys over on the Guns, Gear & Gray Matter forum (private member forum, too) came up with the answer of what it was called. It was marketed by Pachmayr when they were still in Monrovia CA, and called the Pachmayr TAC Holster. The pic of the old ad he posted for me was from ’92.

    BTW, mine is also black. It was the indoor lightning and cellphone camera filter that made it look gray.

    So, now that Mas has also messaged me (in answer to my question) and said he also has one, and now OZ has one, I don’t feel like the Lone Ranger for having some odd stuff hanging around from earlier times. šŸ™‚

    Of course, I have a Stetson that’s older than this widget … šŸ˜‰

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    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #3085
    Mike
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    Nope. Strictly DAO. No SA cocking notch. If I remember right, that canceled order was for something like 800 +/- units, and while they were released through some of the vendors S&W uses to sell off old stock, the numbers were somewhat limited due to the nature of the small order. By the time I learned about the canceled order the factory had already released all of their stock to their vendors, and I had to have a local cop shop find one in-stock at one of the major vendors.

    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #3075
    Mike
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    Newest Broner fedora added this week, a grey one, accompanied by my 37DAO. Yep, that’s an old-style 37-2 Airweight, which came from the factory modified to DAO for a canceled overseas contract several years ago.

    grey-37-5

    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #3065
    Mike
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    Thanks. Trying to get the hang of things, being new to this forum.

    in reply to: Image post test – Hats & Snubs #3059
    Mike
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    Apparently I can only edit a post twice before the Edit option disappears in the header, so I’ll try a different method in this followup post.

    both-642

    It appears I can “hotlink” a copy into a thread and go right to the pic, instead of just having a link appear that must be clicked on.

    340-broner
    624-chatham

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